Dark Ambient Stuff

Lars · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:27 am Post subject: Dark Ambient Stuff

Finally it's done. My new Dark Ambient track called "Terran Salvation". It's a very long and intense track.. it's actually really 'dark', hope you like it Smile

Cybernetica - Terran Salvation (Parasited02) [14:02 min, 160kbps]

planning to release it and more (similar) stuff on CD in small home production at the end of the year.

elektro80 · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:37 am Post subject:

Great! This is grand stuff!

It reminds me a bit of what Brian Williams is doing.
What did you use? How did you compose it?

Lars · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:02 am Post subject:

Thank you.

I used Spectrasonics Atmosphere for it, in my opinion the best choice for ambient and atmosphere. It is quite easy to use und provides some really great sounds and good possibilities to combine them with each other. The arrangement went quite fast, if you want, it was some kind of a stream-of-consciousness composing (did this one in fruity loops, my favorite).

mosc · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:45 am Post subject:

Atmospheres is a good word. Reminds me a bit of Leteti's Atmospheres which was featured in the 1968 movie 2001.

seraph · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:32 am Post subject:

mosc · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject:

Yes, that's the one... When I first heard that one back in 1968, it made a big impression on me. He is a great composer. I guess I should learn how to spell his name. Embarassed

seraph · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject:

redskull · Joined: Aug 16, 2003 Posts: 203 Location: Texas

must speak with you about this...must collaborate on something...must give you props for a job..well...done! Shocked

Mohoyoho · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:52 am Post subject:

Outstanding. As well, it reminds me a lot of Ligeti's Atmospheres.

On Bill Bill Binkelman's Wind and Wire radio show this week they played Atmosphere, and Bill mentioned that Kubrik took some liberties with Ligeti's piece and had edited and rearranged parts of it. Needless to say, the composer was not too pleased.

mosc · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:31 am Post subject:

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:55 am Post subject:

I hardly think Gyorgy Ligeti came to fame only by the means of Kubrick´s 2001.
he got a fair bit of recognition for the electronic composition Artikulation (1958) and the orchestral work Apparitions (1958-59). I think he wrote Atmosphères in 1961. The organ work Volumina was finished soon after. that one is a great toetapper.. dense stuff..
Hmm.. and he went berserk with contrapuntal ideas in the Requiem (1963..65) and Lux aeterna (1966). All these works are recommended. Hot stuff! Really hot stuff!

mosc · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:07 am Post subject:

jksuperstar · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:18 am Post subject:

I had heard Kubrick actually approached Roger Waters to do the soundtrack for 2001. But he declined. If you play Pink Floyd's "Echoes" for the entire last segment (where Kubrick used Mozart), it is a fantastic match. There are even alternative words for the song, which was rumored to be originally called Planets, if I'm not mistaken. All hear-say and rumor. But it's even better than playing "Dark Side..." to "The Wizard of Oz" (If you queue up the song on the CD player & pause it, unpause right when the words introducing the last segment of the film appear, similar to unpausing Dark Side on the third Lion's roar for Oz...).

ian-s · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject:

Writing music to go with old movies, now that’s an interesting idea.
I saw 2001 dozens of times as a kid, my only (slight) disappointment was that W. Carlos had no input at all on the soundtrack. Clockwork Orange soundtrack was/is excellent.

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:32 pm Post subject:

You guys seen old "reefer madness"? Now that is a movie begging for a modern score!

jksuperstar · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:42 pm Post subject:

I've been slowly working on an electro-industrial soundtrack to "Metropolis" (old silent B&W from the early 1900's). In someways it makes writing easier...you get queues, images to work with, and all your timing is predefined (once you identify transition points).

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:54 pm Post subject:

Hey.. Metropolis by Fritz Lang
http://www.kino.com/metropolis/

I made a soundtrack fo rthat one too way back. I have tried to make sense of it, but I couldn´t find my video copy and the ones I have tried so far are different. I guess the new 2002 version is closest to the original version.. maybe... dunno.. perhaps an electro-music.com metropolis box set is called for?

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject:

OK guys... we did it again.. we hijacked a thread.. Shocked

This reminds me of what PLAY said recently:

Lars · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:12 pm Post subject:

Thank you guys, for the comments so far.

That piece 'atmospheres' was one of the tunes that inspired me when creating my track. Smile

But there are lots of ambient pieces that somehow had an influence on me. In Slaughter Natives, Stahlwerk 9 for example are great ambient artists. The stuff by some forum members, specially Elektro80, was very important to me for learning and understanding the 'rules' of ambient.

@redskull: Embarassed

.. if you're not kidding.. I'm really interested! Smile

elektro80 · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:32 pm Post subject:

THX lars. I am not entirely sure it is possible to deduce anything about the rules of ambient music from my stuff.. I hardly think of it as ambient music myself. That said, I am partly raised on "classical" avantgarde so the link to ambient might be there still. I love Ligeti and the lot. Recently I have enjoyed some recording of material by Arvo Pärt. Great stuff.
The two choir works The Beatitudes and Magnificat are well known gems, but you shold check out older stuff like Et Deem too. hey.. i almost forgot Litany. Great piece.

There is a work list at: http://www.musicolog.com/part_works.asp

Lars · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:02 pm Post subject:

I thought of your 'Scharnhorst' track for example.
I'll check out your recommendations and the link, thanks Smile

Dovdimus Prime · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:38 am Post subject:

Yeah, this is bloody cool. I'm not familiar enough with this genre to comment on the track technically, but for what it's worth, I think it's wicked.

Loads of mood, loads of atmosphere. Freaky dark movie soundtrack stuff.