Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2026 2:39 pm Post subject:
wave clays
started picking up an old hobby again - wave claying
that is .. throw stuff into a wave editor and a multi track thing .. or audio work station if you like ... and then manipulate stuff .. till I'm happy with it .. or not .. but it will not end up here then
The Dual State is a book written by Ernst Fraenkel, you can read it at https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.13142 - I've used a speech synth to read fragments of it .. or you can buy cit as a pocket .. for a fokking 50 doillars or so [and even the e-version rips you off]
Anyway, the dual state was written in Germany during the NDSAP time, and it will tel you how that worked, then. The parallels to modern times are not hard to figure out.
Resist! Melt ICE! fuck Trump! use your 2nd amendment rights - now! while you still have them. Be woke
Other speech fragmenst are recorded from short wave radio from when yougoslavia freed itself from their party leader - I happened to be listening then o_o and recording o_O
The rest mostly is artefacts from those two recordings using fx in the wave editor .. but there was another recording i had made of some football match .. probaly eu or world championship .. which had been processed in itself before.
Listening to the first one here. Sounding great! So is this essentially what is called Automation these days? Lots of edits and manipulations to a recording? Back in the CoolEdit days I would do something like that to audio files while also adding effects and basically transforming a sound beyond recognition. Very fun to do and one of those things which you couldn't do without a computer. _________________ Muied Lumens Sub Forum Bandcamp
I used to do it in the cool edit days too, now with reaper and acoustica.
But eh .. I used to be inspired to this sort of thing by the tape editing stuff that was done before people used computers .. luckily it nowadays is way more flexible and faster .. with lots more easily accesible effects to use
With cooledit there was a lot more waiting involved ...
I don't know about that automation thing .. there is not much automated anyway .. but well .. words
Ah yes tape splicing... Technically that is similar but with the amount of copy/paste and other changes and effects I did, this is isn't possible in practice methinks... I have a huge respect for the people behind that stuff anyway, and perhaps I'm underestimating them. I certainly couldn't do it, even if I had the time.
Automation is just writing in parameter changes over time with lines and curves. CEP could do it with some of the effects, like the pitch bend and a couple of others, one being some sort of a filter I think. _________________ Muied Lumens Sub Forum Bandcamp
What i could use is automation automation then ... something to generate automation curves ... like .. say .. i would like some stuttering .. but regular .. as in .. a volume dip say .. every 250 ms .. for 10 ms ...or gliding from 10ms dips to 50 ms dips .. over like 3 minutes .. to make stuff like that is a bloody lot of work manually
There may be VST stuff able to do it? Wren could do it .. were it a VST ...
They like to sync to a tempo so Acoustica can be a problem for them some times... it doesn't give tempo to the plugins. Perhaps that's been fixed I dunno. You can decouple them both from tempo or course. When I get a chance I'll check if they work in Acoustica. Of course, some of your finer points may not be doable even in those plugins...
They do the same thing but are quite different. Definitely more than what I could cobble together myself in Max or other modular sandboxes.
Edit: just remembered... Reaper has LFOs and envelope followers which you can point to any parameter in a VST. This is found on the track header thing, where the volume and record buttons are to the left of the audio file - there's a little button saying "Trim" - click on it and all the parameters available will come up in a list - sometimes thousands of them, depending on the VST. _________________ Muied Lumens Sub Forum Bandcamp
I listened to most of the first one and I'll finish it later. Great stuff, Jan. Keep at it. Good stuff to restart channel 6, IMHO. _________________ --Howard
my music and other stuff
thank you Howard .. but let me first bring it .. erm .. over the top .. sorry .. need more practice ..
btw .. a while ago you mentioned some chop-up tool .. I forgot what that was, but it may in fact be very usable for this .. some standalone thing .. a graphix front-end on some tool kit ... like that
That one seems usable in both reaper and acoustica, thanks
It is a bit .. speedy all .. but on stretching things it can do nice stuff too .. that limit of 32 bars .. it is so .. short
it works fine in 'free-mode' or what's it called in acoustica.
The other one, infiltrator, saw a very nice demo of it from beardyman I think .. could not figure out how long that lfo shape can be, seemed to be 16 bars max .. and that is very very short will look further later on.
I finished the first one and listened to the second.
I like the voice in the second and the contrasting sounds. The cut up words remind me of the Beat Poets. To do what you have done with magnetic tape would have taken a very long time. I think there is a "message", but I can't articulate what it is. I do receive emotion that I can't describe, but it is certainly an expression of how we feel now. _________________ --Howard
my music and other stuff
...or 0.01 hz if you switch off the tempo sync. But some times even that isn't enough.
It also has handy Macro features where you can assign parameters to morph Nord style. Makes automation easier.
Very nice results you got with Shaperbox.
I use both of them to make just about anything into drum sounds - I can have a field recording and have them chop and envelope and pitch shift and resample and so on until I get a long string of nice variations to sample or just use directly. I used to use the Machinedrum for that but this is a lot more flexible. _________________ Muied Lumens Sub Forum Bandcamp
But for now, more claying - a short one, 15 minutes
This started it's life as 'elephant talk' .. 'correction, i'm not free' seemed more appropriate .. but that's the 'why' of the image.
It has samples from the first period mr. trump was in charge over the u.s. of a, but not absolutely so, yet .. anyway .. samples .. amongst which some nonsense uttered by his surroundings, a military band playing for eternal glory.
And then some fresh beeps that i generated from a single sine tone {wavipulations of the sine, so to say}.
And the elephant is still there of course, it is everywhere .. in fact
2026-02-11--Blue Hell--correction i'm not free.mp3
And another .. bit of a weird one - or maybe not - for me it is
edit: it was made from a voice recording and then some whistling and table drumming and overdubs that .. and then it was wave clayed a bit .. not very much .. mostly reverb and echo and chop-up.
I seem to be productive lately - i must be - erm - a- pro - ducer -- well not that pro - maybe a ducer
anyway, here is another one wave clay with illegal samples of americanisms that came into my head while making .. i remember bernstein .. or who was it .. west side something .. an american in paris .. there also is an american pie and eh .. oh -- suicide is painless .. wasnt that mash i gash o_o maybe some more .. but it all is broken .. and the note i had is gone .. the only thing i kept is .. chicken .. or kip rather .. as that is what i need to buy ...
erm .. broken
into 88 pieces [and well mashed up]
(america is broken, and now even i do it ..it should be the us of a .. not the the them of a of course .. and certainly not the us of them.. or the other way around .. and also .. not america .. as that very much is an americanism .. erm usaism .. whatever)
that west side story btw is awfully unwoke isnt it .. that romantic idea of the costa rican people being first colonized and then wanting to 'go to america' .. and only one bit of that whole bloody thing sticked into my head 'i wanne be in america' .. anyway .. couple of days ago i watched a bit of it .. it is sick o_o.
But then again, all the washing powder and cigarette commercials from my 'radio days' just make up for a lot of nonsense in my head .. still .. after decades .. it is .. nuts ..
should do a clay about that .. one day or another :)
want omo wast door en door schoon .. milde belinda .. milde belinda .. cabalero is de .. anyway .. etc. etc.
And also .. note to self.. maybe i should make more woke and entartetes stuff using fascist memes . would that disarm them .. what would a .. what would a .. what would a ...I do not know
It is .. amzing .. how little plottix there is in music .. here .. elsewhere .. it also is amazing how hard it is to get plottix into music .. there is the protest song .. and that is .. not my thing .. still i'm protesting.
I used to have this thing .. with order and chaos .. where strict order, and strict chaos botjh would be boring, and so .. this was with the noodles i made .. so where it would be better to be on the border between those two.This worked well for me, when doing it on several detail levels .. and maybe keep those synced a bit .. stilll.
I now seem to have a comparable thing .. with plottix [which is my name for politics] .. as in .. when i go too concrete and explicit about it .. it is boring .. when i go to abstract .. the message is being lost.
So also I now wonder what other polarities are there that I'm not currently being aware of ..
Puting all that aside .. erm .. aside .. for a while .. again
another go then ... yes .. plottix .. working title was fascism .. but there is not that much left of that .. bits of the great early previous century fascists in the 2nd half .. but also bella ciao .. however that ended up pretty well hidden .. more hidden than planned .. probably a sign of the now .. and which was not that intentional really .. but "fascism 20" as a working project just was enough had to be done .. declared it -- finito -- even when the great nowadays fascists .. welp .. maybe they are not great enough .. but just lousy loosers .. time will tell .. but may it be the case ..
Something a tad less clay like maybe, or a bit more structured .. it was done sooo bloody quickly .. it has to be :)
A lot is wren sequencing, some is 'sax' playing a wren patch .. a couple of samples are there .. taptoe .. last post . the pope .. hey it is and american pope .. and .. erm .. delia for a sec .. and the lamp shade .. but then from my kitchen .. to keep her alive .. wake her up :)
And something kept running .. till I just now pulled the cables .. not stricly wave claying .. but a remnant of the previous .. more .. like .. maxi single :)
Ok, one more .. the ideas folder is empty now .. this one is a little older .. not months .. weeks .. maybe .. it is a bit more like claying, from speech, some other samples and wren.
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