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feastybeasty
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Hey,
My name is John from Roanoke, VA. I'm really into music, most notably modern proggressive and heavy progressive. I like bands like Tool, Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd, Man on Fire, Dream Theater, Mars Volta, tons and tons more....I buy a few cd's a week.
I played piano for 5 years as a kid and now I'm 18 and have played trombone for 5 years, guitar for 3 and I'm getting back into keyboard through lessons and practice and all. However, I wasn't sure what synth was right for me. A lot of my friends play in bands n' stuff that I would like to join. I'm probably looking for something I could find used on ebay and in good condition for about 300 to 500 bucks. I've been looking at the Korg X5D, which seems a solid synth able to do what I want and rock pretty hard for a good price.
Give me your thoughts on this synth or possibly suggest another I could check out, I'd REALLY APPRECIATE IT. |
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mosc
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A synth is a very personal thing. Keyboards all have different feels and different user interfaces. It sounds like you need some general purpose board to do lead synths, pads, epianos, claviers, bass, organs, strings, etc. For this I prefer the Kurzweil boards. I have a PC2x with may be a bit expensive on EBay, but you might be able to find a PC1. Yamaha makes good things of this type. Those are my favorite brands for this kind of thing, but like I said, it's a personal taste issue.
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jkn
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mosc is completely right ... it's very much a personal thing. I may love one thing, you may love another - we're both right.
Definitely stop by music stores near you - and try them out for awhile. All the synths have different action to their keyboards. Some have mod wheels, or joysticks, or other contraptions.
I do recommend as many 'live playing' type elements as possible (for me at least...) I love a knob or slider that can change the sound on the fly.
The synth database at http://www.harmony-central.com can be very helpful in getting opinions of various synths. Always keep a grain of salt handy - but in general you'll find a lot of good info there. |
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feastybeasty
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| alright cool. yea a knob or slider is a must for me, especially since i really wanna throw some bends into my music. ill check out that pc1 and some yamahas |
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...and what about our Links page 
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have you considered a sampler?
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A module like the Roland 1080? Those should be inexpensive these days. And then get a controller with knobbies: http://m-audio.com/forums.html?do=products.list&ID=midikeyboardcontrollers
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feastybeasty
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| what exactly is the difference between a controller and a synth? |
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seraph
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| feastybeasty wrote: | | what exactly is the difference between a controller and a synth? |
Midi Controller:
A device which outputs MIDI data. Controllers may be either instrument controllers (ie keyboard, drum, guitar, or wind controllers) or real-time controllers. Real-time controllers are either continuous controllers (wheels, joysticks, sliders, footpedals, breath controllers, etc.) or switch controllers (footswitches or other on-off devices). Two special kinds of continuous controllers are pitch bend (usually a wheel or joystick) and after touch (channel pressure).
http://www.brookdalemusic.com/nwslttr/midi_trm.htm
A transmitter (or speaker) of MIDI data. MIDI Controllers include, but are not limited to:
http://home.covad.net/~epigraf/public_html/epigraf.site/EPIdefs.html
A device, real or virtual, which generates and transmits MIDI data for operating musical devices or other devices which are electronically enabled for MIDI operation. Such devices generally can be further subdivided into: *Musical instruments: MIDI keyboards, MIDI wind instruments, MIDI guitars, drum machines, MIDI violins, etc., which are used to perform music in real time or to play back pre-arranged music via MIDI.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIDI_controller
Synthesizer:
An electronic keyboard instrument that can produce imitations of other instruments.
www.hotdrum.org/glossary-terms/terminology-8.shtml
In wireless microphones, a circuit which generates a stable and precise RF output on any one of a number of preset (or programmable) frequencies. Synthesizers are used as the local oscillators for receivers, and to set the output frequency of transmitters. See Frequency Synthesizer. Back to top
www.kareoke.com/glossary/microphone_glossary_of_terms.htm
A synthesizer is an electronic music device that allows the control of the pitch, timing and tone of one or more audio signals.
www.songstuff.com/glossary/S
A musical instrument that can generate audio WAVEFORMS electronically and modulate them to create new audio waveforms.
emusician.com/mag/emusic_glossary_terms/
An electronic device that can generate and modify sounds electronically as in "synthesizer programming" in music (as used by the group Emerson, Lake, and Palmer).
www.cybernet1.com/hcs/glossary.htm
Electronic instrument that produces a wide variety of sounds by combining sound generators and sound modifiers in one package with a unified control system.
www.wwnorton.com/classical/glossary/s.htm
Small, self-contained unit of electronics. This device makes it possible to create sound by electronic synthesis.
www.classicalandjazz.co.uk/Dictionary/S.htm
An electronic musical instrument which produces audio signal either by the direct manipulation of electrical signal (as in older analog synthesizers) or by using mathematical functions to alter a stream of numbers (as in contemporary digital synthesizers).
www.brookdalemusic.com/nwslttr/midi_trm.htm
A circuit usually based around a phase locked loop for generating a stable signal. Synthesizers are used in virtually all CB rigs, scanners and communications receivers today
www.radio-electronics.com/info/amateur_radio/amrad_glos.html
An electronic instrument used for the production of sound.
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the device that produces and controls frequencies through synthetic results
www.com-rad.com/SG-GLSY.htm
It is an electronic instrument that can create sounds from different musical instruments such as horns and woodwinds to other sounds that cannot be duplicated with musical instruments. Synthesizers usually consists of a piano type of keyboard along with controls to choose the instruments. Submitter: Lorena's Group and Jin Xu Go to the Glossary Index Computers and Sound Page Audio Page Flash: Audio Movie 1 Flash: Audio Movie 2 Flash: Sound Movie
http://tdi.uregina.ca/~flash/glossary.html
an instrument that uses electronics to generate a large range of sounds, some meant to mimic real instruments and others that are completely new
www.cgsmusic.net/Classical%20Guitar%20Sheet%20Music%20Dictionary/Classical%20Guitar%20Dictionary%20S.htm
synthesist: an intellectual who synthesizes or uses synthetic methods
(music) an electronic instrument (usually played with a keyboard) that generates and modifies sounds electronically and can imitate a variety of other musical instruments
http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
A synthesizer (spelling var. synthesiser) is an electronic musical instrument designed to produce artificially generated sound, using techniques such as additive, subtractive, FM, physical modelling synthesis, or phase distortion to create sounds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthesizer
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feastybeasty
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| ok thanks for the huge article . What i really want to know is can i hook a midi contoller up to an amp and play through it live the same way i could play through a synthesizer? when it comes to playing with a band would a synth be better? |
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elektro80
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A midi controller does not have a built in synth, but there are of course hybrid products out there too.
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feastybeasty
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right now, i've gotten it narrowed down to the korg x5d, the kurzweil k2vx, or the kurzweil sp88 or sp88x
im just not sure whether the sp88 could measure up to the k2vx synthesizer-wise
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feastybeasty
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ok, no sp88 or sp88x actually
but i have been considering juno d or the kurzweil kme61
again, if anyone knows anything about these give me an opinion if you can
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