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elektro80
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject:
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http://www.allpeers.com/blog/?page_id=113
A French appeal court just issued a ruling preventing the inclusion of
anti-copying measure on DVD. This is after a man who was not able to copy a
DVD he purchase to a VHS cassette so he can watch it at his mother's place.
Which is considered private copying and is a consumer right in France. He
got the help of a consumer protection group to sue the Film Studio that
produced the DVD. Film studios have one month to unprotect DVDs.
| Quote: | UFC-Que Choisir (a French consumer protection organization) has been granted a prohibition on DVD copy protection devices by the Paris Court of Appeal, these devices having been judged to be incompatible with private copying rights.
Arnaud Devillard, 01net., April 22, 2005 at 7:28pm
What consumer protection groups have not yet succeeded in gaining for CDs, they have just obtained for DVDs. On April 22nd, the Paris Court of Appeal prohibited the use of DVD-based copy protection systems. The reason? The incompatibility of this practice with private copying rights.
Two companies, Les Films Alain Sarde and Studio Canal, thus suffered a serious setback after having won the case in the Court of First Instance at the end of April 2004.
UFC-Que Choisir latched onto the case of a consumer who was unable to copy a DVD of Mulholland Drive, a David Lynch film produced by Alain Sarde and Studio Canal, onto a video cassette. This person wanted to watch the film at his mother’s, who did not have a DVD player. The strict familial context mandated for the exercise of private copying rights was therefore applicable.
The tribunal also faulted the DVD producers for lack of consumer information. This was not entirely absent but was judged to be insufficient. The label “CP” for “Copy Protected” [note: see comments] was indeed present on the jacket, but in “small characters” and not sufficiently explicit. |
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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 11:37 pm Post subject:
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the effects of it could be snowballing anywhere  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:05 am Post subject:
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| A bit of techno-confusion here, it is the Macrovision scheme that prevents DVD to VCR copying. The encryption or CSS is intended to foil DVD to DVD copying (yeah right). |
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elektro80
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 1:42 am Post subject:
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True, .. and I wonder what happens next. This text has b en translated from french and I am not sure what the verdict really said. I will keep an eye on this and post more news when I get an update. _________________ A Charity Pantomime in aid of Paranoid Schizophrenics descended into chaos yesterday when someone shouted, "He's behind you!"
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While on the subject of DVD’s, the same movie on VHS sells for less than half the price. This is despite the manufacturing cost of a DVD being 1/10th or less that of a VHS tape. And what is the justification? Extras, you get extras like the movie trailers, ‘making of’ documentaries etc, 99% of which the studio made for promotional purposes anyway. Then of cause there is that annoying animated menu to allow you to select all those extras that you don’t want. If you fall asleep, when the movie finishes, the animated menu grinds on forever wearing out you DVD motor and laser.
Piracy is theft, but so is extortion. If they sold DVD disks at a reasonable price, they would eliminate piracy over night.
Maybe I shouldn’t rant, extortion is not the movie industries worst crime, that would be letting John Claude Van Damn direct his own movie.
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:25 am Post subject:
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| g2ian wrote: |
Maybe I shouldn’t rant, extortion is not the movie industries worst crime, that would be letting John Claude Van Damn direct his own movie.
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did you misspelled his name on purpose (Jean-Claude Van Damme)  _________________ homepage - blog - forum - youtube
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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:39 am Post subject:
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| g2ian wrote: | | While on the subject of DVD’s, the same movie on VHS sells for less than half the price. This is despite the manufacturing cost of a DVD being 1/10th or less that of a VHS tape. |
I´ve been thinking that it might be a repeat of the cd - vinyl situation. There too there was a price increase and a cost decrease and people believed it was better because it was "digital".
I think we might regret the move to DVD too; sure there is less noise, but I´m leaning towards the idea that video noise is far less objectionable then the audio-video sync issues DVD suffers from and the fact that just blinking will break your DVD. _________________ Kassen |
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