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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:16 pm    Post subject: Do Brits wear short pants in public?
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My wife tells me that sensible Europeans don't walk about in short pants in public, at least in the UK. I have never been to the UK. I have been mistaken for a local more than once in Munich, but I'll be damned if I can remember what clothes I was wearing at the time.

What's the story? Are we marking ourselves as Yankee Interlopers if we stroll in respectably long shorts? Should our pants legs reach our ankles?

This all becomes relevant to us when we travel to England next week. Thanks!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Do Brits wear short pants in public?
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Are we marking ourselves as Yankee Interlopers if we stroll in respectably long shorts?


I don't know about the UK but you would be in good company down here wearing shorts Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Do Brits wear short pants in public?
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Are we marking ourselves as Yankee Interlopers if we stroll in respectably long shorts?


I don't know about the UK but you would be in good company down here wearing shorts Wink


Really? You mean you have a lot of tourists? I thought italians wouldn't be caught dead in short trousers. Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

You will have no trouble at all wearing shorts in the UK. In fact, the English here wear them long after the weather here would permit even my countrymen (Norwegians) to...

In pubs and restaurants they will not let you be without a T-shirt but shorts are ok.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Short trousers (shorts) are fine here in public.

Short pants would not be.

Pants are underwear here, wearing underwear in public is frowned upon. You may well get away with it, after all we don't like to make a scene here so people would probably just ignore it and talk about the weather but a policeperson may not be so understanding.

Union jack shorts are not acceptable.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Ah, so I can wear 'em, just don't call 'em "pants." Very Happy

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My big thrill there was to use a touch tone phone. My relatives thought I was homesick, but I just wanted to see the touch tones actually work!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Shorts without pockets are what you need.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

And union jack pants, of course Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Union jack pants are fine, even with pockets as long as they are not visible.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BobTheDog wrote:
Union jack pants are fine, even with pockets as long as they are not visible.


So wear a belt so your trousers do not sag, exposing your pants.

And don't bring a "fanny pack" or even think of referring to it as such, it is a "bum bag".

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Sounds ike you have it now Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

What about tipping? My wife says not to tip in restaurants or pubs, but these travels guides aren't coming up 100% accurate.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Always tip in restaurants, I do 20% most do 10% though.

If you are getting table service in a pub or bar then tip, if you are ordering at the bar then don't.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

When i say "always" I mean only if you think the service is good, if you think it isn't then dont tip.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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Always tip in restaurants, I do 20% most do 10% though.

If you are getting table service in a pub or bar then tip, if you are ordering at the bar then don't.


In London, look at your bill before you tip. Most add 12.5% to your bill in "service". 20% on top of that for the "service" you get is, well, to my mind a lot excessive. But I live here.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The problen is that the included "service charge" doesn't usually all go to the people providing the service. It can be used as part wages by the employer in order to actually pay the staff less than minimum wages where the difference is then made up by using the service charge! The rest then goes in the employers pocket.

The best bet is to not pay the service charge (it is optional so you can ask for it to be removed) and then pay the tip with cash rather than cards.

I have quite a few friends who wait on tables and the cash is very usefull as they get paid shite.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thanks!

BBC America has got our Huddersfield agenda all mapped out.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I went to Germany with my grandfather when I was 13. One day, we decided to go swimming at a large public pool. I dressed appropriately - for an American. Which is to say, swimming trunks that came half-way down the thigh. My grandfather's friend looked at me and wondered if I was ready to go. I said yes. She indicated my trunks and said "... und unter?" Me: "Nichts." Her: "Nichts?!" (laughs).

It turns out that German swim-wear are... speedos.

No way was I getting into a banana hammock. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

BobTheDog wrote:
Short trousers (shorts) are fine here in public.

Short pants would not be.

Pants are underwear here, wearing underwear in public is frowned upon.

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I was about to post the same thing.

I think I only became aware of that from watching Peep Show:

"Socks before OR after trousers, but not before pants. That's the rule. Makes a man look scary, like a chicken." Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I believe you are in need of a pair of plusfours old chap? Shocked

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_fours
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You should also carry a bowler hat, a pair of daps and an umbrella for those frightfully chilly summer days, what? Shocked

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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I believe you are in need of a pair of plusfours old chap? Shocked
You should also carry a bowler hat, a pair of daps and an umbrella for those frightfully chilly summer days, what? Shocked

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Forgot to bring one of these (my wife brought one), the borrowed one from the hotel came in very handy today in Ambleside and thereabout.

Survived Huddersfield, a very nice International Computer Music Conference, papers & many concerts. Saw some publically displayed short trousers, not short pants. No short trouser for me.

Strangely, everyone I talked to round Huddersfield said that alcohol-bearing ginger beer is a recent phenomenon, strictly non-alcoholic soft drink before that.
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The original version, rarely produced commercially since the mid-20th century but often home brewed, is a brewed alcoholic beverage.

I can remember reading Alan Watts' autobiography years ago, wherein he lamented the unavailability of proper old-style, alcoholic ginger beer in his adopted home of the U.S. Apparently it went out of popularity in the U.K. as well.

I've found two brands so far, Crabbie's and Hollows, both good.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

The Black country based Enville brewery do a frightfully spiffing ginger pint too.

Knocks yer jolly socks off too!!! Very Happy Idea

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

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The Black country based Enville brewery do a frightfully spiffing ginger pint too.

Knocks yer jolly socks off too!!! Very Happy Idea


A local brewery here in Trondheim is making a very agreeable Indian Pale Ale. However, you are only being served if you already have your socks off and the feet fairly strapped to a pair of solid sandals.

Well.. it´s actually not a modern modest IPA, but rather a DIPA on steroids. Shocked Cool beer

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I just find it interesting that just after you visit London descends into chaos.

Very suspect.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Were the rioters wearing shorts? Shocked
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