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kinrat

Joined: Jul 27, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:37 am Post subject:
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Wonder if anyone can help with my next step at fault-finding my SL Ultimate.
I have a short circuit between -12V and ground somewhere on the pcb. I've checked the obvious, no bridging tracks or leads, isolated the panel wiring so it is not there. I've spent 2 days looking for this through a magnifying lamp and I still can't find it.
My final solution is to cut the ground track at several points and reconnect them one-by-one until I can narrow it down to a single area. Is there anything else I could try before this? |
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blue hell
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Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 24864 Location: The Netherlands, Enschede
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:12 am Post subject:
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kinrat
Yeah there are some tricks ... but its a nasty problem once the board is populated ... if you still have some voltage and the power supply does not over heat on it you can try to trace it with a (milli) Volt meter ... the nearer you get to the short the lower the voltage would be ... another one is to hope its a small short and apply a lot of current to burn it out ... always tricky though (and you need a good power supply of course). |
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th0mas

Joined: Feb 27, 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Ottawa
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 3:45 pm Post subject:
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Check with a multimeter on it's most sensitive setting
Is there any resistance between power and ground at all? Absolutely 0 ohms? The closer to 0 the stronger the short. You may be able to use this to determine if it's a strong connection or a burnt out capacitor or something more indirect.
... I think. I'm not really that great with analog electronics Can anyone add to this? An engineer at my work fixed my laptop motherboard and was watching the resistance between power and ground as he cleaned up the carbon that was acting as a resistor bridging power & ground |
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blue hell
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:38 pm Post subject:
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| th0mas wrote: | | as he cleaned up the carbon that was acting as a resistor bridging power & ground |
Your tip will work too at times ... but ... you should smoke less  |
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th0mas

Joined: Feb 27, 2010 Posts: 12 Location: Ottawa
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Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject:
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ew, it wasn't from smoking .. well, aside from magic smoke when I first applied power.. I replaced the dc input jack and there was a slight bridge that turned to carbon when I applied power. Amazingly this laptop works fine after he scraped away the carbon. Using it right now. |
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kinrat

Joined: Jul 27, 2010 Posts: 4 Location: UK
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:55 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for your advice guys, I looked around the area with the lowest voltage on the negative rail and found the fault (eventually)
All works and getting some nice square and saw waveforms on all 3 oscillators, now just have to setup and tune it.
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blue hell
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Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject:
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good work  |
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