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Please: i need sync for the Mahkato
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:20 am    Post subject: Please: i need sync for the Mahkato Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello,


i REALLY need a sync circuit for the Mahkato VCF!
Pleeeeeaaaaaase !





I need sync !
i do things with the mahkato, no other module can do.
there is no competitor out there.
the mahkato is every minute and efford worth to get there a sync inside !
( i cannot, i'm an electronics idiot Embarassed )
PLEASE !



funky(needing more sync)40
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

so it's no theme here, i guess.



but who needs sync when only filtering ? Laughing
on the other side: who needs the mahkato as a Filter ? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

I think this might be difficult. Regular oscillators work around charging/discharging a capacitor. Sync is simply resetting to zero (or in some cases, reversing) the charge.
The Mahkato oscillates due to feedback around the filter and I don't think there is any single point that would allow the waveform to be reset. I could be wrong though.
You can get sync-like effects using a wave wrapper maybe?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Hello All,

Ian-s got it right. This circuit is an oscillator when fed back, not a function generator, so sync is not a viable option.

Incidentally, the misspelling of its name here is a treat. I'm from Mankato (hence the name of the project), but our town was actually named after a Dakota Indian who lived here in the mid-1800s.

His name? Mahkato.

The name got corrupted to the current spelling.

Thomas Henry
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Thomas_Henry wrote:
Hello All,

Ian-s got it right. This circuit is an oscillator when fed back, not a function generator, so sync is not a viable option.


so you mean there is no way ?
i was afraid it could be so.


Thomas, if you see any chance, please try.
the mahkato is VERY special !!!


Thomas_Henry wrote:


Incidentally, the misspelling of its name here is a treat. I'm from Mankato (hence the name of the project), but our town was actually named after a Dakota Indian who lived here in the mid-1800s.

His name? Mahkato.

The name got corrupted to the current spelling.

Thomas Henry


haha, no missspelling here Wink
some friends figured out the story behind the word Mankato.
They surched when they built theyr Modules ( it was serenadi and master of circles from germany)


so i use the term Mahkato in respect to the american Natives and the history.
I'm very deep aligned ( or associated) with that folk ( i must translate some terms when writing english)
IIRC the name means green earth, but not shure



thanks alot for chiming in guys !
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Please: i need sync for the Mahkato Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

hey Guys and Gals,

I've often thought about this too, but I've never really dug into it. I'm wondering if shorting the timing cap for the first stage of the filter might have some effect. And by "shorting" I actually mean using a low value resistor and an FET or analog switch across the cap. This is something that could be done manually as a test, so it might be worth trying.

Tim (very trying) Servo
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote  Mark this post and the followings unread

Or short all the timing caps even .. I'd be worried about plops, but indeed testing would be easy and it would be a well defined "zero state".
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