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forficule
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 Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:42 am Post subject:
a a aa a a (tchoum) new? new new! one one one |
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Hello everybody,
A new piece on my website : www.forficule.fr.st
it's called "truisme glissant"
And I wait your feedbacks
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Hey, I like this one very much. It is very much in the style of classical music. The structure is very strong, it supports the sounds and showcases them very well. I'd like to see more structure like this in electronic music. Maybe becasue I enjoy music in a concert setting.
Good work, keep it coming...
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| Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:06 am Post subject:
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Thanks mosc!
that's exactly what I wanted to do, a classical form
thank you for your understanding. 
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forficule
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| Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:27 am Post subject:
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hum hum
In the past
I had a lot of feedbacks... 
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This is excellent.
Electronic muisc used to be a lot like this 30-50 years ago. Are you familiar with the BBC Radiophonic Workshop? ..And the Siemens lab?
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| forficule wrote: | hum hum
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Mmmm. Prenez le patience, mon petit terroriste sonique de la France! J'ecoute ta nouvelle piece toute de suite et alors j'ecrit lequel je pense!
Pardon moi, mon francais est lequel les anglais appellent <<rusty>>.
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| elektro80 wrote: | This is excellent.
Electronic muisc used to be a lot like this 30-50 years ago. Are you familiar with the BBC Radiophonic Workshop? ..And the Siemens lab? |
I guess that is because way back then only established serious composers were able to get access to electronic music studios. That's the kind of music that first attracted me to electronic music and I think it's still my favorite.
To me, it is more interesting and satisfying to have structure.
I know that everything has structure, even if you play a single tone for three minutes or thirty minutes there is structure. But there can be grand stuff when music is crafted structurally. It's another dimension that I miss when it's not there - if you catch my drift. 
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| elektro80 wrote: | This is excellent.
Electronic muisc used to be a lot like this 30-50 years ago. Are you familiar with the BBC Radiophonic Workshop? ..And the Siemens lab? |
No, I don't know the siemens lab or the BBC Radiophonic Workshop, you know I live in a small village in France...
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OK.. well.. in that case try to googleBBC Radiophonic Workshop.
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A nice one again. I especially liked the dreamy end of it.
In the first part, the cymbals feel a bit out of place or "out of sound"
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| forficule wrote: | | that's exactly what I wanted to do, a classical form |
Hmm. I noticed an arrangement/structural difference between this and some of your previous stuff - this one has a lot more variety - more sounds, it almost sounds like a conversation between the different sounds. I don't know if this is what you and Mosc are referring to with your talk of structures and classical forms - that's just music-ese to me.
The different 'sections' don't seem to lead on from each other in any kind of logical way - they could almost be from different tracks but tacked together. That's not a criticism, since clearly I don't know what effect you are trying to create. But I personally prefer your stuff where you are developing a single sound or idea over the track rather than this approach, where you're taking the listener from one place to the next, not necessarily in any ordered kind of way.
Still, as always, it is interesting music that engages my imagination, so thank you.
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| Dovdimus Prime wrote: | | But I personally prefer your stuff where you are developing a single sound or idea over the track rather than this approach, where you're taking the listener from one place to the next, not necessarily in any ordered kind of way. |
Interesting comment, Dovder. I wonder if this gets to something important about two different aesthetics of music, one from the classical tradition and one from the popular tradition.
If I can temporarily jump into generalization... Pop music is based pretty much on the song, where the structure is pretty simple, and the durations are relatively short - at least compared to a sonata, concerto or symphony. In songs, there is usually a verse and chorus, sometimes a few other things; bridges and solos, etc. In pop music, a theme album is a complex structure. In classical traditions, there is a strong concept of contrasting material, long developments, theme and variation, big architectural structures, and that sort of thing.
Maybe there is a different expectation when people listen to music. A lot of classical buffs thing pop music, and electronic music that came from pop music, to be boring. People coming at it from pop music tend to find the more classical oriented stuff to be unaccessible.
Now I will jump out of generalization. Forgive the oversimplification.
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